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Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 17 Feb 2013 09:51
by Vortex
This discussion got way too abstract... o_o

well anyways, we should add the new info to the wiki :)

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 17 Feb 2013 16:29
by Anteroinen
OnyxIonVortex wrote:This discussion got way too abstract... o_o
It would seem that he- you know what? I better just shut up before I say things I can't take back. :roll:
well anyways, we should add the new info to the wiki :)
Indeed. This will be our first Youtube comment reference too. :lol:

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 18 Feb 2013 21:27
by Rooster5man
Indeed. This will be our first Youtube comment reference too.
Very true! I still wonder if it's believable :P

Edit: I hope Ant doesn't mind the discussion here, but:
I think that the drawing of sub8 is the knot, and is not natural of the plan, is something that mur created.
If you're referring to Mur creating the note, I believe that's the "he" the note refers to. However, isn't that the point - that the knot isn't natural to The Plan?

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 18 Feb 2013 21:53
by Anteroinen
Rooster5man wrote: Edit: I hope Ant doesn't mind the discussion here, but:
I don't mind discussion. I do take umbrage at people making incomprehensible comments, with the informational content of "oh woe with me".
I think that the drawing of sub8 is the knot, and is not natural of the plan, is something that mur created.
If you're referring to Mur creating the note, I believe that's the "he" the note refers to. However, isn't that the point - that the knot isn't natural to The Plan?
You think Murtaugh is behind that note? I don't really think that, rather it would be the doing of the god-like architect.

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 18 Feb 2013 22:34
by Rooster5man
I don't mind discussion. I do take umbrage at people making incomprehensible comments, with the informational content of "oh woe with me".
I think you can drop it now, let's move on.
I think that the drawing of sub8 is the knot, and is not natural of the plan, is something that mur created.
If you're referring to Mur creating the note, I believe that's the "he" the note refers to. However, isn't that the point - that the knot isn't natural to The Plan?
You think Murtaugh is behind that note? I don't really think that, rather it would be the doing of the god-like architect.
Oh, true, but we can assume Mur has an understanding of The Plan and all the Layers, after all. Who's to say Mur didn't make that drawing?

And would this Architect be Henry O'Toole?

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 18 Feb 2013 23:42
by Anteroinen
If you're referring to Mur creating the note, I believe that's the "he" the note refers to. However, isn't that the point - that the knot isn't natural to The Plan?
You think Murtaugh is behind that note? I don't really think that, rather it would be the doing of the god-like architect.
Oh, true, but we can assume Mur has an understanding of The Plan and all the Layers, after all. Who's to say Mur didn't make that drawing?

And would this Architect be Henry O'Toole?
That's a possibility. The notes found in Submachine 8 were clearly excerpts from extremely old discussions from when the layers were being discovered trough to a period when the plan was fully functional and understood. Why would that note break the pattern?

Murtaugh being knowledgeable seems likely though, as he lived way after the discovery of the plan. He also seems like a person who would make a mysterious note - but who doesn't in the Submachines?

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 25 Feb 2013 10:19
by The Abacus
I just read through everything here.

Nice story! I really enjoyed reading it.

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 25 Feb 2013 10:22
by Anteroinen
The Abacus wrote:I just read through everything here.

Nice story! I really enjoyed reading it.
Thank you, it was a pleasure writing it.

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 20 Jul 2013 10:24
by Anteroinen
A POSTULATE ON DAYMARIAN RELIGION

Daymarians worship the sun, apparently equating it with Ra. This is evident from the temple of Ra in the town. The familiar star symbol is on the floor. Hence I postulate that the symbol is a symbol of Ra. The symbol seems to have lost its religious relevance somewhat, however; we can see variations of it marking directions and roads. It doesn't seem to have some sort of a warding effect connected with it.

The girl on the hospital door says that the mist is fading their darkness. This implies not only sunlight is important, but darkness too. It is entirely possible that Daymarians believe they are beings with a balance of the two essences of their being Darkness and Sunlight, similar to Yin and Yang in Daoism. Those are, after all, the only "colours" present in their world. The mist eats away Darkness or adds Sunlight, which is implied to be lethal or at least destructive. Hence, is conclude that these two properties are not only vital but in conflict with each other.

Re: Anteroinen's Theories

Posted: 20 Jul 2013 23:08
by Boingo
And likewise with Egyptian belief, there needed to be a balance between chaos and order...
The symbol seems to have lost its religious relevance somewhat, however; we can see variations of it marking directions and roads. It doesn't seem to have some sort of a warding effect connected with it.
I find this intriguing. The star symbol though, is more of a signature mark of sorts...although it does appear more in DM than elsewhere.
Anteroinen wrote:A POSTULATE ON DAYMARIAN RELIGION

It is entirely possible that Daymarians believe they are beings with a balance of the two essences of their being Darkness and Sunlight, similar to Yin and Yang in Daoism. Those are, after all, the only "colours" present in their world. The mist eats away Darkness or adds Sunlight, which is implied to be lethal or at least destructive. Hence, is conclude that these two properties are not only vital but in conflict with each other.
Once again, relating to Egyptian belief...

I don't know, some concepts we have been guessing at for some time, and you're the first to stick it on 'paper'...
Some concepts make sense, and are quite believable, but some minor details like the Ra temple may not be actually linked.
I suspect that you are right in the balance of dark/light but the balance part is more or less part of a greater plot.


Nice theory.
(I've just gotten an idea for a humourous one :mrgreen: )