@XDI'm sure he will, or else there'd be too many plot-holes XD
Well, were talking analogy anyway, right? I mean, specifically, the Defense System is a computer system probably run by a local submachine, or the Core's submachine. Everything else is "like" a defsys only in the sense that it defends an area.About "The Temple entered - Beamer shutdown" - It's possible, but another DefSys, even if it's not one of the typical DefSys? It's like there's DefSys everywhere you go
I still find it annoying. :/Even if they do mention that, it's still considered a possibility and can't be Debunked
Well the layers are not far apart. Mateusz has made that clear I think. So I think that means the green portal is long because it is taking us to a specific point in layer 1 so that we can "shift," or whatever verb we want to use, to the right point in layer 5.Why would the Karma Portal at the end of Sub7 be "dramatically long" if it's really not that far away? Besides it meaning it is far away, it could be said to add to the mysterious factor of the Series.
Ironically, I find myself less sure I'm right.As for the first layer of the Knot being in the Core: To be honest, your Theory about the knot being a whole seperate entity off of the SubNet is starting to get to me
Interesting... So, would that be something like a sector of the Plan was built to be a microcosm of the whole?so there's two (of many) conclusions:
1) The Knot is The Plan, and something's happened (Mur) to The Plan that got it into this state.
...But we talked before about how the subnet is probably not infinite because then the defsys would have to be infinitly long. However, the subnet still could be infinite if you count bubble dimensions within the subnet, like the Loop, or the infinite blue corridor.
You use bubble to mean a gap? Does gap even have meaning? If your outside of a dimension, I would think you are by definition beyond space/time, ie, your in a place that doesn't exist.
This kind of description kind of confuses me. To talk about edges and spaces between dimensions doesn't seem to make sense. A dimension or layer, it would seem to me, is a space made up of a set of dimensions that either loops back on itself, or somehow just ends. But it seems strange to say that if you could get past that end you would travel through a space that would eventually lead you to another dimension. If this were the case, they would all simply be a part of the same space and have causal influence on each other. I don't think theoretic physics would support this either, though I'm just a physics fanboy, not someone who knows much of anything. Instead, the idea is that each layer/dimension is isolated from all the others except when beamers are used to create a relationship between sectors of a dimension.Ah, I see. And maybe "gap" is the wrong word in this case - It's like an actual bubble straddling both Dimensional Planes, in the actual edge seperating both Dimensions.
Edit: ha! Ironically, now that I've written the rest of this post and am rereading this, I realize that talking about some kind of "space" between bubbles is in some ways exactly what we are talking about when we say the bubbles are on the same Layer! But it isn't a physical space that one would traverse or else that would just be another part of the dimension. (If that didn't make sense, keep reading. XD) However, I think I need to clarify that when I say an End to a pocket/layer/bubble/etc, I mean that there can be no physical space beyond that end. There is literally nothing there, not a space you could move through or anything. So it is not exactly correct to say there is anything past an end to a bubble, even though it is located in the same layer as other bubbles and perhaps is even imbedded in normal space (see below).
I think either could probably be used to describe different phenomenons. A pocket dimension would be the black hole analogy, where an area of local space (part of the "parent" layer if you will) bends "inward" and creates an entire other space but which is still on the same layer. Now, I would claim that a bubble dimension is just another layer if it were not for the limitation of 7 layers. So this means that a bubble dimension works just like a pocket dimension in that it is formed from its parent layer. Strangely, however, there is no entrance, except perhaps teleporters. I don't know how it could then still be said to be a part of the parent layer, other than perhaps if you were to somehow make a map of the layer, the bubbles would still be on the layer, just not in the normal space.Now that I think on it, it may not be the best explanation, but "pocket dimensions" - Now those may be a better term, so we do have the same idea, I probably misrepresented it XD
Hmmm... oh wow, so imagine that there is a bubble of infinite space right in front of you. You can walk through the point of normal space that it "occupies" but your local space just bends around it in a way you can't even sense. If you could sense space/time directly, you could sense the point in which the infinite bubble is located, but without the right tools (teleporters, beames, or perhaps some other device that can convert a bubble into a pocket) you couldn't enter.
A third point is that a pocket is still not quite the right term for some phenomenons, because it seems that other parts of the pocket could bend out and attach to other areas of normal space creating worm hole like passages. So, there it is = worm holes are pockets that connect two or more locations. This in fact could be how all teleports work: a very small pocket dimension (small because we are unaware of even being in it) is connected between locations and we either walk through (like the gate in Sub7) or the entrance to the pocket is moved over the space the user of the teleport is occupying.
And just to clarify, this is not how the beamers work because the beamer "opens" or connects a sector of two layers, and the Navigator allows the wearer to shift directly between the layers where an intersection is created by the beamers.
Edit2: and just to further clarify, the subnet is a pocket, bubble, or worm hole within normal layer 1 space, and there are probably many bubbles within that bubble, and could conceivably be an infinite number of them.
Yeah, our subnet is in, as you say, layer 1, along with our universe and perhaps any number of pockets, worm holes and bubbles. But there are only, for some reason, 7 layers. Perhaps game mechanics. Each location is some form of bubble, pocket, or worm hole within the larger bubble that is the subnet.no. all subnet is one dimention, not 999 dimentions.
there are 7 dimentions and I'd suppose - there are 7 versions of the same subnet. or not. maybe in one reality they didnt create subnet, and just core remains. there could be a dimention where the core is not damaged. who knows.I see...."All SubNet is one Dimension" - Could he then be referring to how all SubNet is one Layer? Because he brought up 999 in the sense that each Location is a Dimension, which it's not. So there can be 999 Layers,Interesting quote. Is he being deliberately obtuse about it, or will it just not make a difference to the story of the game?
Well, just to be clear because there are theories that say this, it does not appear to be 7 layers with alternate versions of perhaps some original reality. In other words, this is not a Sliders scenario, if your familiar with that tv show. Instead, the Architects have made similar meta structures (the core, the knot, etc) on each layer, but each is a unique location, not an alternate. To clarify, I don't think each layer has a slightly different Earth, Universe, etc, though each layer will have a Core because that is the purpose of the Plan: to unite the layers at the Core sectors. But I don't expect we'll find alternate versions of people or locations, just different people and locations. Although, the Core might be the exception, and perhaps when we get to the Temple we'll see what the Winter Palace was suppose to be like before it was imperfectly copied and damaged. But certainly the layers of the Knot were not alternate versions of the same reality, they were unique realities. This could also be why Mateusz has said there is only one Mur and Liz, not 7.each containing its own version of the SubNet. That's what I believe he's referring to - Each Layer has its own version of reality, its own version of the SubNet, which is why all the Layers are different.
Edit: Pheeeew! Did that make any sense? I feel it should be rewritten for clarity sake, but there is no way I will be doing that anytime soon. XD